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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       April 2, 2008                                                                                            
                         8:43 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  called the  House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 8:43:05 AM.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Chenault, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Stoltze, Vice-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                   
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                       
Representative Mary Nelson                                                                                                      
Representative Bill Thomas Jr.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Jim  Pound,  Staff,   Representative  Wes  Keller;  Suzzanne                                                                    
Armstrong,   Staff,   Co-Chair    Meyer;   Joyce   Anderson,                                                                    
Administrator,  Select  Committee   on  Legislative  Ethics;                                                                    
Representative   Bob  Lynn,   Sponsor;  Mike   Sica,  Staff,                                                                    
Representative  Bob  Lynn;  Senator Johnny  Ellis,  Sponsor;                                                                    
Representative   Berta   Gardner;  Senator   Gary   Stevens,                                                                    
Sponsor.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ron Siebels,  Alaska Chapter  of the  Military Order  of the                                                                    
Purple Heart; Ric Davidge,  State Council President, Vietnam                                                                    
Veterans of America.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 353    "An Act relating to the blocking of certain                                                                           
          Internet sites at public  libraries and to library                                                                    
          assistance grants."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          HB  353 was  REPORTED  out of  Committee with  "no                                                                    
          recommendation" and  a zero  fiscal note  from the                                                                    
          Department of Education and Early Development.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 368    "An Act modifying the limitations on political                                                                        
          fund  raising   during  legislative   sessions  by                                                                    
          candidates   for   governor  or   for   lieutenant                                                                    
          governor, and amending  the Legislative Ethics Act                                                                    
          to  modify   the  limitation  on   political  fund                                                                    
          raising by  legislators and  legislative employees                                                                    
          during legislative sessions,  to allow legislators                                                                    
          and legislative employees  to accept certain gifts                                                                    
          from  lobbyists within  their immediate  families,                                                                    
          to  clarify  the  Legislative  Ethics  Act  as  it                                                                    
          relates to legislative  volunteers and educational                                                                    
          trainees, to  reduce the frequency  of publication                                                                    
          of   summaries   by   the  Select   Committee   on                                                                    
          Legislative  Ethics,  to   revise  procedures  and                                                                    
          penalties   related   to   the  late   filing   of                                                                    
          disclosures  required  by the  Legislative  Ethics                                                                    
          Act, and to add a definition to that Act."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          CSHB 368  (STA) title am, as  amended was reported                                                                    
          out of Committee with  a "do pass" recommendation,                                                                    
          a   zero   fiscal    note   from   Department   of                                                                    
          Administration, and  a new  zero fiscal  note from                                                                    
          the Legislature.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 216(TRA)                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          "An  Act   designating  the  Alaska   Highway  and                                                                    
          portion of  the Richardson  Highway as  the Purple                                                                    
          Heart Trail."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          CSSB 216 (TRA) was  reported out of Committee with                                                                    
          a "do  pass" recommendation  and fiscal  note from                                                                    
          the  Department   of  Transportation   and  Public                                                                    
          Facilities.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 241(HES)                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          "An Act  relating to a  report to  the legislature                                                                    
          on    teacher    preparation,    retention,    and                                                                    
          recruitment by the Board of Regents of the                                                                            
          University of Alaska; and providing for an                                                                            
          effective date."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          CSSB 241 (HES) was  reported out of Committee with                                                                    
          a  "do pass"  recommendation, a  zero fiscal  note                                                                    
          from  the University  of Alaska,  and a  letter of                                                                    
          intent  from  the  House  Health,  Education,  and                                                                    
          Social Services Committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:43:35 AM                                                                                                                    
HOUSE BILL NO. 353                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the blocking of certain Internet                                                                       
     sites at public libraries and to library assistance                                                                        
     grants."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer summarized the history of the bill in                                                                            
committee and invited amendments.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:44:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #1, 25-                                                                           
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         (2) "public library" means a library that                                                                              
               (A) provides the following services free of                                                                      
               charge to members of the public:                                                                                 
                    (i) establishment and maintenance of a                                                                      
                    collection of books and other materials                                                                     
                    for loaning;                                                                                                
                    (ii)   access   to   interlibrary   loan                                                                    
                    services;                                                                                                   
                    (iii) reading or other educational                                                                          
                    programs for children;                                                                                      
                    (iv) reference information; and                                                                             
               (B) is not operated by or affiliated with                                                                        
               the University of Alaska."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly explained  that the  committee adopted                                                                    
the  original   version  of  HB  353,   which  includes  the                                                                    
University. The  amendment removes the University  of Alaska                                                                    
from the requirement for a library filter.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker commented  that the  amendment allows                                                                    
government to  exempt itself  from the  laws imposed  on the                                                                    
rest of the community.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  pointed out  that the  university wants                                                                    
to  be exempted  for  the same  reason  as small  libraries:                                                                    
because  it  is  expensive. He  emphasized  the  difficultly                                                                    
monitoring  computers  as  outlined   in  the  bill  due  to                                                                    
staffing. He  did not  support the  amendment and  felt that                                                                    
the provision  needed to have  the language from the  CS 353                                                                    
(STA) or something that addresses costs to the library.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:47:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze  disagreed  with  Representative  Gara                                                                      
interpretation  of the  amendment. Exempting  the university                                                                    
addresses the fact  that there is an  adult population using                                                                    
the university library.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly maintained  that the  cost to  smaller                                                                    
libraries would be less because of less expensive software.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:48:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM  POUND, STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE WES  KELLER, agreed  with                                                                    
Representative  Kelly  and  reported  that  downloading  the                                                                    
program for the filter takes about 15 minutes.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  noted that smaller libraries  with only                                                                    
part-time staff  and without high-speed internet  would have                                                                    
more difficultly downloading software.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Stotlze  reminded   the   committee  that   the                                                                    
amendment was about the University of Alaska exclusion.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:49:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly responded  that anything  that can  be                                                                    
downloaded can also be purchased on CD.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  asserted   that  the   bill  raises                                                                    
fundamental  questions of  equal  treatment  and freedom  of                                                                    
speech.  He did  not  want the  state to  be  a place  where                                                                    
children  could view  pornography.  He expressed  discomfort                                                                    
with omitting  the university and  stated opposition  to the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:51:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer   noted  that  the  university   library  is                                                                    
available only to adults.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly said generally  he would not exempt the                                                                    
university regarding  other issues  and underlined  that the                                                                    
issue is protecting children.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:52:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault   reminded   the  committee   that   the                                                                    
university  is   open  to  the  general   public,  including                                                                    
children.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:53:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  said   that  Representative   Kelly's                                                                    
suggestion  of purchasing  a CD  underlines  the point  that                                                                    
there  is   a  cost   associated  with  the   provision.  He                                                                    
reiterated  concern regarding  financial hardship  for small                                                                    
libraries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:53:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly   responded    that   the   cost   is                                                                    
insignificant  if  the  issue is  protecting  children.  The                                                                    
amendment simply separates out  the adult population. He was                                                                    
concerned about  children having  access to the  internet at                                                                    
the university.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       8:54:56 AM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENE:     8:57:59 AM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:58:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly WITHDREW Amendment #1.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:58:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  MOVED  to   ADOPT  Amendment  #2,  25-                                                                    
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     (d) This section does not apply to a public library                                                                        
     that:                                                                                                                      
          (1) has a policy prohibiting computer users from                                                                      
          viewing internet sites that depict the items                                                                          
         described in AS 11.61.128 (1)(A)-(F) and                                                                               
          (2) determines that complying with this section                                                                       
          would require a cost that materially reduces                                                                          
          library services made available to the public.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara explained  that the  amendment requires                                                                    
compliance  with  the  provision  unless  a  library  cannot                                                                    
afford software  without reducing library services,  and has                                                                    
a policy in place prohibiting access.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:59:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze felt  the interpretation  was too  broad                                                                    
and  could  apply to  any  library  regardless of  size.  He                                                                    
acknowledged that the intent of  the amendment is addressing                                                                    
smaller libraries, but claimed the language is broader.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  reiterated  concerns  about  costs  to                                                                    
libraries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:59:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault interpreted the  amendment to mean that if                                                                    
the software  costs too much,  then a policy  would suffice.                                                                    
He  referred to  public  testimony  regarding convicted  sex                                                                    
offenders using  the library. He  did not think  these users                                                                    
would be  deterred by  a policy.  He noted  appreciation for                                                                    
the  intent but  was concerned  that the  amendment was  not                                                                    
sufficient.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:01:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  remarked that  the bill itself  did not                                                                    
address  the  larger  problem   of  internet  predators.  He                                                                    
acknowledged agreement  that no  one wants  children viewing                                                                    
pornography   but  maintained   that  there   is  too   much                                                                    
uncertainty on  how to address  concerns and costs.  He felt                                                                    
the  amendment  was  preferable to  shutting  down  a  small                                                                    
library.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly opposed  Amendment  #2. He  emphasized                                                                    
that the  libraries are not  in favor of control.  He wanted                                                                    
to send  a clear message  regarding the issue by  passing HB
353.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara                                                                                                                  
OPPOSED: Kelly, Stoltze, Thomas, Hawker, Meyer, Chenault                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representatives  Crawford, Foster,  Joule,  and Nelson  were                                                                    
absent from the vote.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (6-1).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:            9:03:52 AM                                                                                                
RECONVENED:         9:04:30 AM                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:04:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze MOVED  to report HB 353  out of Committee                                                                    
with individual recommendations  and the accompanying fiscal                                                                    
note. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HB   353   was   REPORTED   out  of   Committee   with   "no                                                                    
recommendation" and  a zero fiscal note  from the Department                                                                    
of Education and Early Development.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:05:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 368                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act modifying  the limitations  on political  fund                                                                    
     raising during  legislative sessions by  candidates for                                                                    
     governor or  for lieutenant governor, and  amending the                                                                    
     Legislative  Ethics Act  to  modify  the limitation  on                                                                    
     political fund  raising by legislators  and legislative                                                                    
     employees   during  legislative   sessions,  to   allow                                                                    
     legislators   and  legislative   employees  to   accept                                                                    
     certain  gifts from  lobbyists  within their  immediate                                                                    
     families, to  clarify the Legislative Ethics  Act as it                                                                    
     relates  to  legislative   volunteers  and  educational                                                                    
     trainees,  to reduce  the frequency  of publication  of                                                                    
     summaries  by  the   Select  Committee  on  Legislative                                                                    
     Ethics, to  revise procedures and penalties  related to                                                                    
     the  late   filing  of  disclosures  required   by  the                                                                    
     Legislative  Ethics Act,  and  to add  a definition  to                                                                    
     that Act."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  informed the  committee that  although he                                                                    
withdrew  Amendment #1  in the  previous  meeting, he  still                                                                    
maintained  concerns  regarding   making  the  Committee  on                                                                    
Legislative  Ethics  the  prosecutor, judge,  and  jury  for                                                                    
ethics violations.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:06:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #3 (Copy on File):                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, following line 18:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
     "*Sec.  2. AS  24.60.031  is amended  by  adding a  new                                                                    
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
               (c)   this  section   does  not   prohibit  a                                                                    
     legislator from soliciting  or accepting a contribution                                                                    
     or  making  campaign   expenditures  during  a  special                                                                    
     session held  during the 90 days  immediately preceding                                                                    
     an election  if the  district for which  the legislator                                                                    
     has filed for  office is in the  municipality where the                                                                    
     special session occurs."                                                                                                   
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:07:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:            9:07:31 AM                                                                                                
RECONVENED:         9:09:21 AM                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUZZANNE  ARMSTRONG, STAFF,  CO-CHAIR MEYER,  explained that                                                                    
the amendment  adds a  new section  under AS  24.60.031 that                                                                    
restricts  fundraising.  Currently  a legislator  who  is  a                                                                    
candidate for  office cannot raise  funds during  regular or                                                                    
special  session  within  the   municipality  in  which  the                                                                    
regular  or  special  session is  occurring.  Concerns  were                                                                    
raised regarding  parity of those legislators  who reside in                                                                    
the municipality where the session occurs.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Armstrong explained  that there is a  history of changes                                                                    
to the statute regarding fundraising.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:11:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOYCE   ANDERSON,   ADMINISTRATOR,   SELECT   COMMITTEE   ON                                                                    
LEGISLATIVE  ETHICS, described  an ethics  statute from  the                                                                    
1980s  that read:   Members of  the  legislature elected  to                                                                    
represent the capital city are  exempt from the requirements                                                                    
of (f)   of the  section regarding campaigning.  The statute                                                                    
was  rewritten  in 1992.  At  that  time fundraising  became                                                                    
prohibited. She  did not  find record  in the  ethics office                                                                    
that there were complaints regarding the issue.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Anderson added  that under  Amendment  #3 a  legislator                                                                    
could campaign during a special  session in the municipality                                                                    
in which  the session is held  if it were 90  days preceding                                                                    
an election. Legislators  representing districts outside the                                                                    
municipality where the  session is held may  not campaign or                                                                    
raise funds in the municipality where the session is held.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:13:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltz  emphasized his objection to  the bill. He                                                                    
did  not want  loopholes  created with  regards to  campaign                                                                    
fund raising.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:15:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  did not want  to put the  Juneau legislators                                                                    
at a disadvantage for fundraising,  especially in years when                                                                    
there are many special sessions.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:15:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BOB LYNN,  SPONSOR, thought  the amendment's                                                                    
intent was good, but felt  the bill should remain unchanged.                                                                    
He wanted  fewer loopholes and  exceptions in order  to make                                                                    
the law easier to follow.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:16:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker expressed  concern  that without  the                                                                    
amendment   the   bill   could  present   a   discriminatory                                                                    
situation.  He  underlined  the  importance  of  maintaining                                                                    
equal treatment under the law.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:17:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara   discussed    the   timing   of   the                                                                    
fundraising.  Fundraising is  prohibited  up  until 90  days                                                                    
before  the election.  Without the  amendment, an  incumbent                                                                    
legislator  could  be  at   a  disadvantage  in  competitive                                                                    
campaigns if  they represent the  municipality in  which the                                                                    
special  session is  held.  He thought  the  rule should  be                                                                    
equal;  either  everyone  or  no   one  should  be  able  to                                                                    
fundraise. He  stated concerns regarding  corruption without                                                                    
the amendment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mayer stated his agreement.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:20:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas supported  the  amendment because  it                                                                    
levels the playing field.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Nelson  pointed  out  for  the  record  that                                                                    
Juneau members do not support the amendment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:21:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  pointed  out   a  language  error  and                                                                    
suggested amending  the amendment to add   legislative staff                                                                    
or legislative employee.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:22:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze pointed  out that staff has  to resign in                                                                    
order  to   run  for  office.  Ms.   Anderson  affirmed  his                                                                    
statement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara   withdrew   the  amendment   to   the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Armstrong  explained that AS  24.60.031 (a) and  (b) are                                                                    
the sections that outline  what legislative employees cannot                                                                    
do on behalf of a legislator running for office.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:23:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  echoed comments that  Juneau legislators                                                                    
are  opposed   to  the  amendment.  He   described  campaign                                                                    
difficulties because of being distant from his district.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:25:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on Amendment #3.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Thomas, Crawford, Gara, Hawker, Joule, Meyer                                                                          
OPPOSED: Nelson, Stoltze, Kelly, Chenault                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (6-4).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas  asked  why the  provision  does  not                                                                    
include the governor and lieutenant governor.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:26:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lynn  reported that  the issue  was discussed                                                                    
at  length in  the House  Judiciary Committee.  The governor                                                                    
and lieutenant governor  were taken out as it  was felt that                                                                    
it was  inappropriate to use  the bill for a  broader ethics                                                                    
concern.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:27:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas  observed  that the  bill  was  filed                                                                    
before   the   lieutenant   governor   filed   for   office.                                                                    
Representative  Lynn noted  there  had  been much  political                                                                    
debate over the  issue. He felt that it was  better to leave                                                                    
the executive branch out of the provision.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:28:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE SICA, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  BOB LYNN, said the genesis                                                                    
of the  bill was  when the  Select Committee  on Legislative                                                                    
Ethics came  to the House  and Senate  with a request  for a                                                                    
simple "fix it" bill. He  explained that Section 1, Title 15                                                                    
was not in the original bill.  It was added because a change                                                                    
to the statute on fundraising  should apply to the executive                                                                    
branch  as well.  Though well  intentioned, it  did not  fit                                                                    
with the committees recommendations.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Lynn  observed   that   inclusion  of   the                                                                    
executive  branch  created political  challenges  detracting                                                                    
from the attempt to pass an ethics bill.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:29:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas  emphasized concern about  the ability                                                                    
of the  governor and lieutenant  governor to  campaign while                                                                    
the legislature  is in session.  He suggested  the effective                                                                    
date be changed to November.  He felt no one should campaign                                                                    
during  session.  Representative  Lynn  responded  that  the                                                                    
effective date for the entire bill would then be changed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer did not think  the legislature should concern                                                                    
itself with the executive branch.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:30:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze MOVED to report  CS HB 368 as amended out                                                                    
of  Committee   with  individual  recommendations   and  the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal note.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, CS  HB  368 (STA)  title am,  as                                                                    
amended,  was reported  out of  Committee with  a "do  pass"                                                                    
recommendation,  a  zero  fiscal  note  from  Department  of                                                                    
Administration,  and  a  new  zero   fiscal  note  from  the                                                                    
Legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:32:47 AM                                                                                                                    
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 216(TRA)                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act designating the Alaska Highway and portion of                                                                      
    the Richardson Highway as the Purple Heart Trail."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JOHNNY  ELLIS, SPONSOR, provided an  overview of the                                                                    
bill and noted that Representative  Gardner was a sponsor of                                                                    
the companion  legislation in the  House. The intent  of the                                                                    
bill is to honor Alaska  veterans and show Alaska's pride in                                                                    
veterans  to visitors.  Alaska has  more  than 1,000  active                                                                    
military  duty  personnel.   Forty-four  other  states  have                                                                    
designated all  or part of  their interstate  highway system                                                                    
as part of the Purple Heart Trail.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ellis   reported  that   the  Alaska   Highway  was                                                                    
originally built by  the U.S. Army during World  War II. The                                                                    
bill  proposes large  signs  at  Fairbanks, Delta  Junction,                                                                    
Tok, and the  Canadian border, with smaller  signs at points                                                                    
between,  and   three  pullouts  with   informational  signs                                                                    
explaining the Purple Heart Trail.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ellis credited Ron Seibels,  commander of the Alaska                                                                    
military Order  of the Purple  Heart, for the  original idea                                                                    
of the  bill. The  changes to  the CS  and sign  design were                                                                    
proposed  by the  Department  of  Transportation and  Public                                                                    
Facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:35:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BERTA  GARDNER  spoke   in  support  of  the                                                                    
legislation.  She  added  that  the Military  order  of  the                                                                    
Purple  Heart is  only for  service men  and women  who have                                                                    
been killed  or injured in  the line of duty.  She recounted                                                                    
that the  House had recently passed  legislation relating to                                                                    
the decoration of honor.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:36:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  spoke in support of  the legislation. He                                                                    
noted that  there was little  recognition of  the servicemen                                                                    
who  built  the  Alaska  Highway,  who  were  treated  in  a                                                                    
discriminatory manner. He  noted that he may  write a letter                                                                    
of intent recognizing them.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:38:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RON SIEBELS,  ALASKA CHAPTER  OF THE  MILITARY ORDER  OF THE                                                                    
PURPLE  HEART  (testified   via  teleconference),  spoke  in                                                                    
support  of the  legislation. He  underlined that  there has                                                                    
been no  opposition to the provision.  The communities along                                                                    
the route  have written  in support.  He thought  the Purple                                                                    
Heart signs would create a  positive impression on visitors.                                                                    
He stated his  appreciation for support for  the project and                                                                    
urged timely passage of the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:43:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze  asked who  is  depicted  on the  Purple                                                                    
Heart stamp. Mr. Siebels believed it was George Washington.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:43:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RIC DAVIDGE,  STATE COUNCIL  PRESIDENT, VIETNAM  VETERANS OF                                                                    
AMERICA (testified via teleconference),  spoke in support of                                                                    
the  legislation. The  majority  of veterans  in Alaska  are                                                                    
Vietnam  veterans. He  clarified that  the Purple  Heart can                                                                    
only  be received  by someone  who is  injured or  killed by                                                                    
enemy  fire,  not  by friendly  fire.  Vietnam  Veterans  of                                                                    
America  is   working  with   the  new   national  veterans'                                                                    
organization, the Veterans of  Modern Warfare, who represent                                                                    
all post-Vietnam  veterans. The  Purple Heart  Trail project                                                                    
helps show honor to veterans and supports all veterans.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:45:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara thanked Mr. Davidge for his work.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:45:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  acknowledged  the   fiscal  note  from  the                                                                    
Department  of  Transportation  and  Public  Facilities  for                                                                    
$150,000 for making and installation of the signs.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:46:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  said he would  draft a letter  of intent                                                                    
in that  states the  basic intent  of honoring  the existing                                                                    
Alaska Veterans.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:46:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule remembered a  debate on the House floor                                                                    
regarding signage on the highway.  At that time it was voted                                                                    
down.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:47:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze clarified  that the  House floor  debate                                                                    
referenced  by Representative  Joule  was regarding  tourist                                                                    
oriented directional signs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:47:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas  spoke in  support  of  the bill  and                                                                    
hoped  to see  language in  the bill  encouraging the  Yukon                                                                    
government to continue the trail.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:48:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  MOVED to  REPORT CSSB  216 (TRA)  out of                                                                    
Committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal  note. There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CSSB  216 (TRA)  was reported  out of  Committee with  a "do                                                                    
pass" recommendation and fiscal  note from the Department of                                                                    
Transportation and Public Facilities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:49:40 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATE BILL NO. 241                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to a report to the legislature on                                                                         
     teacher preparation, retention, and recruitment by the                                                                     
     Board of Regents of the University of Alaska."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARY STEVENS,  SPONSOR, described  the bill  as the                                                                    
result  of recommendations  made  by  the Joint  Legislative                                                                    
Education   Funding   Task   Force.  The   bill   recognizes                                                                    
difficulty  in Alaska  training,  recruiting, and  retaining                                                                    
teachers. The bill requires a  report from the University of                                                                    
Alaska   regarding   teacher   workforce   development   and                                                                    
training;   specifically  the   recruiting,  training,   and                                                                    
retaining of public school teachers.  The bill requires that                                                                    
the report  be presented to  the House and  Senate education                                                                    
                      th                                                                                                        
committees  on the  30   legislative  day  of each  session;                                                                    
after 2013 the  report will be every two years.  He felt the                                                                    
provision sends  a clear message that  the legislature wants                                                                    
the  University  of  Alaska  and the  Board  of  Regents  to                                                                    
address the teacher shortage.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:51:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  recommended  moving the  bill  out  of                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker pointed  out that  CS SB  241(HES) is                                                                    
accompanied  by a  letter of  intent from  the chair  of the                                                                    
Health, Education, and Social  Services Committee and a zero                                                                    
fiscal  note.  He  further  noted that  the  sponsor  is  in                                                                    
agreement  with  the  changes  made  in  the  House  Health,                                                                    
Education, and Social Services Committee.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker MOVED to REPORT  CSSB 241 (HES) out of                                                                    
Committee with individual  recommendations, the accompanying                                                                    
fiscal note, and letter of intent from the House Health and                                                                     
Social Services Committee. There being NO OBJECTION, it was                                                                     
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CSSB  241 (HES)  was reported  out of  Committee with  a "do                                                                    
pass"   recommendation,  a   zero  fiscal   note  from   the                                                                    
University of Alaska, and a  letter of intent from the House                                                                    
Health, Education, and Social Services Committee.                                                                               
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:54 AM.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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